{"id":111516,"date":"2025-02-19T23:59:49","date_gmt":"2025-02-19T23:59:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/awardwallet.com\/blog\/?p=111516"},"modified":"2025-02-25T13:45:56","modified_gmt":"2025-02-25T13:45:56","slug":"speculatively-transfer-points-bonus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/awardwallet.com\/travel\/speculatively-transfer-points-bonus\/","title":{"rendered":"Why I Speculatively Transfer Points During Transfer Bonuses"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There is a &#8220;rule&#8221; that I've heard on many occasions: You should never speculatively transfer points. This applies <em>especially<\/em> to flexible bank points like <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/credit-cards\/amex-membership-rewards\/\" rel=\"noopener\">American Express Membership Rewards<\/a> and <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/credit-cards\/chase-ultimate-rewards\/chase-transfer-partners\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Chase Ultimate Rewards<\/a>. For most points aficionados, the reason is obvious. <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/travel\/types-of-rewards-points\/\" rel=\"noopener\">&#8220;Flexible points&#8221;<\/a> are just that: flexible. You don't want to lock them into a specific program without an immediate use.<\/p>\n<p>But I am here to tell you why, on <em>occasion<\/em>, I deliberately depart from this community wisdom.<\/p>\n<h2><span id=\"A_Common_Refrain_Don8217t_Speculatively_Transfer_Points\">A Common Refrain: Don't Speculatively Transfer Points<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>As long as you keep your points as bank points, you retain <strong>all<\/strong> of their flexibility. This goes away the instant you complete a transfer to any travel partner. You can't reverse a points transfer, turning them back into bank points. It's a one-way street. Now, you can only redeem them with this one hotel\/airline program.<\/p>\n<p>I'll be honest that I've found myself with stranded points more than once. For example, I once transferred points during an <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/news\/amex-membership-rewards\/cathay-pacific-transfer-bonus\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Asia Miles transfer bonus<\/a> and used them to book Cathay Pacific first class. It's not the most ideal use of miles, but I wanted to fly this top-notch product.<\/p>\n<p>Then, COVID-19 hit. The trip was canceled. I didn't re-book it. Since my points were already converted to Asia Miles, I was now stuck with a stash of them. I ended up burning them \u2014 at least those about to expire \u2014 to fly <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/airlines\/american-aadvantage\/domestic-first-class-lie-flat-seats\/\" rel=\"noopener\">American Airlines Flagship First from coast to coast<\/a>. I'm glad that <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/airlines\/do-cathay-pacific-asia-miles-expire\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Asia Miles has since changed their expiration policy<\/a>. I finally just used the last of my stash book an upcoming trip.<\/p>\n<p>In this case, I didn't speculatively transfer my points, but it was still a lesson in dealing with a stranded balance. You'd think I'd want to avoid this. Yet, there are still reasons why I transfer points speculatively.<\/p>\n<h2><span id=\"Why_I_Occasionally_Break_This_8220Rule8221\">Why I Occasionally Break This &#8220;Rule&#8221;<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>The need to <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/travel\/positioning-flights\/\" rel=\"noopener\">position for international flights<\/a> is an unfortunate reality for me. I live in a rural area, about five hours by car from the closest major airport. In order to save the time and hassle, I do my utmost to position to San Francisco (SFO) when needed, rather than drive.<\/p>\n<p>This means I fly the same little United Express hop a handful of times per year, if not more. Rather than use <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/airlines\/united-mileageplus\/\" rel=\"noopener\">United MileagePlus<\/a> miles, which I prefer to save for partner business class awards when flexibility is important, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/airlines\/avianca-lifemiles\/avianca-lifemiles-sweet-spots\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Avianca LifeMiles<\/a> is my currency of choice. LifeMiles is the absolute cheapest as well. I can fly this short hop for just 7,500 LifeMiles. Cash prices can easily hit $200 each way, so this provides an excellent use of my <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/credit-cards\/amex-membership-rewards\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Membership Rewards,<\/a>\u00a0<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/credit-cards\/citi-thankyou-rewards\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Citi ThankYou Points<\/a>, and <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/credit-cards\/bilt-rewards\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Bilt Rewards<\/a>. I often clear around 3 cents per point for these economy flights, which is the <a href=\"\/point-mile-values\/avianca\">average value AwardWallet users get<\/a> from the currency for business class.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Related: <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/airlines\/avianca-lifemiles\/shorthaul-united-awards\/\" rel=\"noopener\">511 United Award Routes That You Can Book for Just 6,500 Miles<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Thus, I've found holding a small stash of LifeMiles to be extremely convenient. Sure, I could transfer points anytime I need them. I always have Membership Rewards on hand. But why not get the extra value by converting them to LifeMiles during a <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/news\/credit-card-transfer-bonuses\/\" rel=\"noopener\">transfer bonus<\/a>?<\/p>\n<p>Sure, the program could kill this shorthaul sweet spot at any point. We've seen <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/news\/avianca-lifemiles\/us-award-devaluation-2025\/\" rel=\"noopener\">yet another no-notice devaluation<\/a>. But I tend to use the miles quickly, so I'm happy to speculatively transfer points. I generally keep a balance of around 25,000 LifeMiles on hand.<\/p>\n<p>It comes down to this: I have high confidence that I'll use the miles in the coming 6-12 months. Given this near-certainty, transferring points during a transfer bonus makes sense. As a recent example, I just transferred 5,000 Bilt points to LifeMiles during a recent <a href=\"\/news\/bilt-rewards\/bilt-rent-day\/\">Bilt Rent Day bonus<\/a>.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_111539\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-aspectratio=\"600\/400\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP\/\/\/yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-111539 lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/awardwallet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/canadair-crj-200-united-sfo-gate-e3-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"picture of a United Airlines regional jet; I Speculatively Transfer Points to Book This Sky Chariot\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/awardwallet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/canadair-crj-200-united-sfo-gate-e3-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/awardwallet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/canadair-crj-200-united-sfo-gate-e3-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/awardwallet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/canadair-crj-200-united-sfo-gate-e3-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/awardwallet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/canadair-crj-200-united-sfo-gate-e3-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/awardwallet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/canadair-crj-200-united-sfo-gate-e3.jpg 1980w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><center><em>I've spent a lot of time on these, unfortunately. Credit: Ian Snyder<\/em><\/enter><\/figure>\n<h2><span id=\"Keeping_LifeMiles_in_My_Pocket_Some_Real-Life_Examples\">Keeping LifeMiles in My Pocket: Some Real-Life Examples<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Here are a few situations where having LifeMiles on hand was extremely useful for me:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Booking a <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/travelupdate.com\/living-dangerously-booking-separate-tickets\/\" rel=\"noopener\">one-way positioning flight home after an international return to SFO<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Booking tickets for a long weekend in Arizona with my sons<\/li>\n<li>Scoring a same-day award ticket when returning home from visiting family at the hospital in San Francisco<\/li>\n<li>Multiple other one-way positioning flights to either SFO or LAX to complete an international itinerary<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>These are all very standard uses of points. However, I typically don't keep a balance with many international airline programs (e.g., <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/airlines\/air-canada-aeroplan\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Aeroplan<\/a>, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/airlines\/use-emirates-skywards\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Emirates Skywards<\/a>, or <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/airlines\/book-american-flights-etihad-miles\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Etihad Guest<\/a>), only transferring what I need when I need to use them. LifeMiles is my one exception, as I take advantage of transfer bonuses when they come up.<\/p>\n<h2><span id=\"Final_Thoughts\">Final Thoughts<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Sure, I am taking on some risk each time I speculatively transfer points to LifeMiles. The program could roll out a no-notice devaluation that reduces their value. It would be unfortunate, but I am willing take that risk.<\/p>\n<p>If this sounds interesting, you can bookmark our page for <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/news\/avianca-lifemiles\/lifemiles-transfer-bonus\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Citi-LifeMiles transfer bonuses<\/a> and <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"\/news\/amex-membership-rewards\/avianca-lifemiles-transfer-bonus\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Amex-LifeMiles transfer bonuses<\/a> to check what's available and see updates when future bonuses roll around. Bilt Rewards may also roll out another transfer bonus. I know this decision isn't for everyone, but I wanted to highlight it since it is an unusual choice that diverges from conventional advice. It's definitely worked out for me over the past several years.<\/p>\n<div id=\"ftoc\"><div id=\"toc_container\" class=\"toc_light_blue no_bullets\"><p class=\"toc_title\">Page Contents<\/p><ul class=\"toc_list\"><li><a href=\"#A_Common_Refrain_Don8217t_Speculatively_Transfer_Points\">A Common Refrain: Don't Speculatively Transfer Points<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#Why_I_Occasionally_Break_This_8220Rule8221\">Why I Occasionally Break This &#8220;Rule&#8221;<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#Keeping_LifeMiles_in_My_Pocket_Some_Real-Life_Examples\">Keeping LifeMiles in My Pocket: Some Real-Life Examples<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#Final_Thoughts\">Final Thoughts<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Most advice you&#8217;ll hear says you should never speculatively transfer points to airline or hotel programs. There are several reasons for this. While I agree with the common wisdom, I consciously break from time to time. My reasons are specific to my situation. 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