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Finding tickets with points and miles to Australia and New Zealand often takes time and effort. Flights in business and first class can cost hundreds of thousands of miles, premium economy availability can be limited, and the lack of flights available compared to flying to Europe and Asia can make it seem almost impossible to use miles on a dream vacation to the South Pacific.

Thankfully, you don't necessarily need hundreds of thousands of miles to get there. There are still some excellent premium economy, business-class, and first-class awards to Australia and New Zealand — you just have to know where to look.

Best Premium Economy Awards to Australia and New Zealand

55,000 Alaska Airlines Atmos Rewards points from the U.S. to Australia and New Zealand

Alaska Airlines offers some great deals on partner awards. Several of its partners fly to Australia and New Zealand, including Qantas, American Airlines and Fiji Airways.

Partner premium economy awards that fall within Alaska's 7,001–10,000-mile distance band run 55,000 Alaska points. Excitingly, several nonstop routes between the U.S. and Australia or New Zealand fall within this award band.

Alaska Atmos Premium Economy award for 55K SFO-SYD in PremY
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Taxes and fees on these awards can also be extremely reasonable. Alaska charges a $12.50 partner booking fee per traveler plus applicable taxes and fees. That puts total out-of-pocket costs for these routes from $39 to $59 when flying nonstop.

Related: Which Credit Card Should You Use To Pay Award Taxes and Fees?

Unfortunately, Alaska Airlines only has one transfer partner: Bilt Rewards. If you do not have Bilt Points, you can still accumulate Atmos Rewards points quickly through one of Alaska's several co-branded credit cards.

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Atmos™ Rewards Ascent Visa Signature® credit card
Welcome Bonus: Limited-time online offer – 70,000 bonus points. Get 70,000 bonus points and a $99 Companion Fare (plus taxes and fees from $23) with this offer. To qualify, spend $2,500 or more on purchases within the first 90 days of opening your account.
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Welcome Bonus: Limited-time online offer – 70,000 bonus points. Get 70,000 bonus points and a $99 Companion Fare (plus taxes and fees from $23) with this offer. To qualify, spend $2,500 or more on purchases within the first 90 days of opening your account.
Annual Fee:$95
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The Atmos™ Rewards Ascent Visa Signature® credit card offers cardholders 3 points per dollar on eligible Alaska Airlines and Hawaiian Airlines purchases and 2 points per dollar on everyday purchases like gas, local transit including ride share, cable, and select streaming services. Other benefits include an annual Companion Fare™ of $122 ($99 fare plus taxes and fees from $23) after spending $6K in the previous anniversary year, priority boarding, a free checked bag, a 10% reward bonus on points for Bank of America account holders, and a $100 discount on Alaska Lounge+ Membership.
  • Earn unlimited 3 points for every $1 spent on eligible Alaska Airlines and Hawaiian Airlines purchases
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From 49,500 American AAdvantage® Miles from the U.S. to Australia and New Zealand

American Airlines dynamically prices its awards. For a premium economy ticket to Oceania, AA lists awards starting at 60,000 miles, but you can occasionally find tickets priced below that. For example, the sample flight below from Los Angeles to Sydney is priced at 49,500 miles.

A partner award on Qantas is slightly pricier, at 65,000. While finding Qantas flights via AAdvantage may be tricky, you'll often find the best availability about a month or two in advance.

AA and Qantas awards for 49.5K and 65K, LAX-SYD
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To earn AAdvantage miles quickly, you can transfer Citi ThankYou Points at a 1:1 ratio or sign up for one of American's co-branded credit cards.

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The AA Platinum Select card is a great choice for anyone who travels at least a few times per year with American Airlines. Cardholders get a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, priority boarding and a 25% discount on in-flight purchases.

With these perks, it's easy to justify the annual fee of $99, waived for first 12 months.
  • Free checked bags for you and up to 4 companions on domestic itineraries
  • Priority boarding to help you win the race for overhead bin space
  • A 25% discount on inflight food, beverage, and Wi-Fi purchases
  • Earn 2X miles for every $1 spent at restaurants
  • Earn 2X miles for every $1 spent at gas stations
  • Earn 2X miles for every $1 spent on eligible American Airlines purchases
  • Earn 1X mile for every $1 spent on all other purchases

Related: How To Use American Airlines AAdvantage® Miles to Fly to Australia, New Zealand, and the South Pacific

70,000 United MileagePlus miles from the U.S. to Australia and New Zealand

When it comes to premium economy availability, United Airlines MileagePlus is a solid program due to its wide network across the United States. In addition, the airline does not charge extra for one-stop flights to Oceania as long as the ticket originates in the United States. This makes United a great option for premium economy seats if you're not traveling from a city with nonstop flights to the South Pacific.

Additionally, eligible United Airlines credit cardholders receive at least a 10% discount on United-operated award tickets. In the example below, cardholders will pay 63,000 miles instead of 70,000 miles.

United MileagePlus Premium Economy award for 70K, SFO-AKL
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Unlike Alaska Airlines, United Airlines has two transfer partners: Bilt Rewards and Chase Ultimate Rewards. As a result, its miles are relatively easy to accumulate and redeem.

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Welcome Bonus Earn 75,000 bonus points after you spend $5,000 on purchases in the first 3 months from account opening.
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Related: How To Transfer Chase Points to United MileagePlus

Best Business-Class Awards to Australia and New Zealand

Given how long flights are from the U.S. to Australia and New Zealand, it's no surprise that many travelers want to save their points for an ultra-long-haul business- or first-class ticket. Unfortunately, lie-flat tickets between these two parts of the world can feel nearly impossible to get. However, there still are sweet spot redemptions, especially if you book last minute — or almost a year in advance.

85,000 Alaska Atmos Rewards points from the U.S. to Australia and New Zealand

Alaska Airlines can also be a great option for business-class award tickets between the U.S. and Oceania. Partner business-class awards within the 7,001–10,000-mile distance band start at 85,000 points plus fees.

Alaska Atmos J award on Qantas for 85K points, LAX-SYD
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80,000 American Airlines miles from the U.S. to Australia

Some of the same partner flights you can book through Alaska are even cheaper with American AAdvantage miles — starting at 80,000 miles in business class. And with American's extensive U.S. network, you could even be able to connect to your international flight on the same award ticket.

Flights on American Airlines metal start at 95,000 miles and are usually priced much higher since they're dynamically priced. Sticking to Qantas is better value.

Qantas pricing on AA for JFK to AKL. 40k in main, 65k in premium, 80k in business. Each has $45.80 in fees
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Fiji Airways is another option to Australia and New Zealand, with a stop in Fiji. The carrier joined the Oneworld alliance and the AAdvantage program in 2025, so you can now find solid availability — if you don't mind having a layover partway over the Pacific. You'll often find business-class awards for 80,000 miles, but dynamic pricing will sometimes push the cost much higher.

Fiji Airways award search DFW-BNE via AAdvantage
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Bonus: 85,000 American Airlines AAdvantage Miles from Europe to Australia and New Zealand

If you live in Europe or want to make a worldwide trip, it might be worth flying from Europe to Oceania. Mileage availability can be easier to come by, and American has a slew of partners operating between the regions, including British Airways, Qatar Airways, and Malaysia Airlines.

American Airlines AAdvantage award search results from Paris to Perth
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Best First-Class Awards to Australia and New Zealand

First-class flights between the U.S. and Australia and New Zealand are becoming increasingly rare as airlines focus on improving their business-class products. Even so, there are still a few ways to book first class.

110,000 American Airlines AAdvantage miles from the U.S. to Australia and New Zealand

Qantas maintains a first-class product on its Airbus A380, which flies to Dallas and Los Angeles as of the time of writing. Like other awards, you have the best chance of snagging a Qantas first-class award via AAdvantage within one to two months before departure.

Qantas First award via AAdvantage
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American also offers Flagship First to Sydney on its Boeing 777-300ER. While you can sometimes find flights priced similarly to a Qantas partner award, dynamic pricing can often push the cost much higher.

Final Thoughts

While it may seem that deals on award flights to Australia and New Zealand may be extinct or rare compared to flights to Europe and Asia, there are quite a few sweet spots depending on the mileage program you use to book flights.

You can even spend a similar amount of miles to fly from Europe to Australia or New Zealand in business class. By planning early or staying flexible enough to book at the last minute, you can fly in style without spending an exorbitant number of miles.

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  • Barry Schnur says:

    One approach I have found which can work is to break out the trip to Australia and/or New Zealand.

    That is fly out to Hawaii (mid week economy on HA can be as little as 17,5K miles using Hawiaian Airline miles. Lay over a couple of days to break up the travel.

    The fly from Honolulu to either Sydney or Brisbane on Hawaiian Airlines using American airline miles — they 65K with reasonable availability in business class — the Hawaiian A330’s are now lie flats. One consideration here is that the flights get in at 7:30PM — so plan to stay in Sydney that evening and go on from there. (We did this and flew on the next day to Cairns — within 24 hours so the 65K miles included the continuation flight on Qantas).

    Return flights can be a bit trickier. For our big vacation we took miles to fly from Cairns to Melbourne. Then we paid out of pocked to fly economy plus on Air New Zealand to Auckland – they had a noon flight. For the return home we found a good ‘out of pocket’ price in HA business class ($1500 each) to fly from Auckland to Kona by way of HNL. We have a timeshare on the big island.

    One can then arrange flights back to the mainland from there (either with FF miles or out of pocket.).

    The payoff for us was to break up the longer flights so we did 10 hours, not 14 or 16 hours on a plane and also avoided the change plane / terminal hassle.

    • Barry, great example here! Thank you for sharing.

      • Barry Schnur says:

        I would note that sometimes you can get a ‘bargain miles’ flight with HA miles (we collect AA miles, Alaska Miles and Hawaian Miles).

        If your schedule is totally open, it is possible to fly from HNL ro AKL business class on HA for 65,000 miles – with HA’s new lie flats – that can be an nice flight to take.

        Looking over the thread, I will note that our first trip to Australia was using Alaska Miles on Cathay Pacific first class out of LAX — I will tell you first class on Cathay Pacific seriously can spoil one.

  • Kwang-Woo Hong says:

    I currently use American Airlines, but business/first class redemptions can be quite hard to come by. Good to know there is another option in Alaska.

  • MV says:

    Howie, Jetstar Airways has a non-stop from HNL-MEL. Can you tell me anything about this airline? eg: Comfort, reliability, alliance with US frequent flier programs?. In a perfect world, I would route MSP-HNL nonstop on DL, then connect to this airline to get to MEL. Could a routing like this be created?

  • Matthew says:

    What is the likelyhood of getting business on Qantas Australia to the states? using AA miles in early November 2018. I’m going to be going to Hawaii on the way there for a few days first. Looks like HNL- SYD via AKL has great availability. Thanks!

    • Australia to the US and the other way around are some of the hardest routes to get premium cabin award space. Your odds: better than 1%, worse than 99%. Plan as far in advance as you can and search every day. Your saving grace is coming from Hawaii instead of the mainland, which I think would increase your chances.

  • Theresa says:

    I’m heading to NZ and Australia soon buisness points from AA. I hope the trip goes smoothly and I don’t get bumped by someone paying cash. Fingers crossed! Booked late so used loads of points, but the trip will be worth it.
    Thanks for this information regarding trading points etc it sure takes some research to get the most out of points.

  • Sophie says:

    We’ve been relying on AA (with Amex and SPG) to get us to Europe in recent years. Their chart is quite advantageous and the call centre customer service is amazing compared to Qantas.

    Hoping the SPG conversion lasts a bit longer as AA are hard to come by for Aussies!

  • MV says:

    Thank you, Howie. Based on your response, I will plan to use United or Korean (to find DL flights). As for AA Miles, if I told you my two most desired places to visit in the next five years are the UK and Australia and seated in either BC or FC… based on what you told me about the difficulty finding BC/FC seats using AA miles to Australia, combined with my desire to pick/use the airline that keeps the extra fees/taxes to the UK to a minimum, should I even consider AA, or should start accumulating miles for a different airline/alliance? Thank you very much.

  • MV says:

    Howie, regarding using AA miles to Australia, could you further explain your comment, “While you’ll have a difficult time finding that premium cabin award availability with AA…..” Should I give up hope that I won’t be able to use AA miles to fly on AA in BC or FC to Australia? I thought I read that using AA miles for Qantas to Australia will only be possible for Economy seats. Could you please clarify? Thank you very much.

    • I would be pleasantly surprised if you find Business/First class award space with AA or Qantas to Australia. It happens, but not often and typically comes and goes quickly. Personally, I’d look to use United or Korean miles and route through Asia

  • Phil says:

    Hi,

    I wanted to get to New Zealand, unfortunately at peak travel date. 12/27/2017 returning between 1/15-1/19 2018. Hoping to do business. Or alternatively same date 2018-2019

    I have $155K UR points.
    65K AA miles
    220K United Miles

    Is it possible to do round trip business round trip without cashing out everything?

  • MV says:

    Howie, how much are the prices for your Award Booking Service to do a specific search, and/or a general search. How far out can they search for possible FC/BC options from mainland to Australia or New Zealand?

  • Sebastian says:

    I tried to find Space in F from Germany to SYD – but its always only in BIZ – is there any Chance in getting it in F?

  • NM says:

    Thanks for the thoughtful article. Would your recommendation for programs change if one wanted to add Tahiti to either the outbound or return from Australia/NZ?

  • Stephanie says:

    What about going all out and trying to fly First Class in a Suite in either Cathay Pacific or Singapore with a stopover? I have 200,000 AMEX points, 50,000 Citi Thank You points, 60,000 Alaska miles, and at least 70,000 AA miles. Plus I am not trying to do this myself-I am using your award booking service to fly to Auckland and back late November 2017, and I have a little flexibility about when I leave. Is this a pipe dream?

    • Stephanie – it’s viable with what you have. The hardest thing is figuring out how to get the best value due to some of your balances. What you have with Alaska is just under the desired threshold … but the folks at the Award Booking service handle this stuff and can give you the best plan and let you know what makes the most sense — especially with your flexibility.

  • Kris says:

    I definitely recommend the Japan Airlines option stopping over in Tokyo and then flying to Sydney – which Alaska and American Airlines frequent flyers can access. They are both exciting places to visit and JAL provides fully lie-flat seats in business class and a great service on board.

  • Martin says:

    I’m a fan of using United miles to get to Australia and New Zealand. As someone living in the Bay Area, I take United’s non-stop evening flight from SFO. If you can sleep on the plane (at your natural sleep time), the long flight doesn’t seem so long and you arrive in the morning (actually two days later because you cross the International Date Line).

  • Jean says:

    Which one provides more bang for your buck for non-US user?

    • It depends on where you’re collecting your points/miles and how quickly you can accumulate them. There are several options listed and however, you’re collecting your points/miles will likely dictate which is the best bang for your buck.

  • jeff pollak says:

    I am surprised I do not see the best Australia value out there right now while it lasts, Virgin America at only 40k miles on Virgin Australia. Get it before Alaska Airlines ruins the relationship and the loyalty program.

    • Jeff, you make an excellent point — especially if you’re transferring from SPG to Virgin America, at a 1:1 ratio and you get a 25% bonus effectively giving you 1:1.25. I wish Membership Rewards had such a transfer ratio, but if you’re heavy with SPG points this is an amazing deal, you’re correct. Thanks for sharing!

  • Jean says:

    Is there any benefits of using one over another?

  • Bonnie says:

    We used our United miles in Feb for our upcoming Dec trip to NZ/AU. Flying to Auckland from IAD via SFO and back from Sydney. Slightly tricky as one way flights and using two accounts for Business Class. Then UA has rescheduled several times. LOOONG trip, so Business is worth it and cashing FF miles makes sense. Considered New Zealand Air, but less control and potentially more miles.

  • Rexx says:

    I have a bunch of friends in New Zealand now, they’re making me jealous enough that I’ll have to get there in the next year or two.

  • Peter Brooks says:

    I used AADvantage to fly to, from, and around Australia over the summer. I flew back on Qantas (thru AA) business class, and I didn’t want the flight to end! It was spectacular, from beginning to end!

  • Tom says:

    In my opinion, OW’s biggest advantage is Qantas. Makes getting to Australia from anywhere in the world so much easier.

  • Ray Reed says:

    We were able to use our AAdvantage miles for two business class tickets to Australia and New Zealand in October 2015. We flew to Honolulu first class on American, overnighted and caught a Hawaiian Airlines flight in business class to Brisbane, Australia the next day. On the return, we flew Qantas business class from Sydney to Honolulu and then first class on American to Dallas. American now has non-stop lights from LAX to Sydney and Aukland. We are going back next April and were able to secure business class tickets with our miles on American’s 787 Dreamliner to Auckland, and then return on their 777 from Sydney.

    • Traci Giuliano says:

      Hi Ray,

      How far in advance did you book your tickets for April from LAX-AUck-SYD-LAX? Looking to do something similar for next December.

      Thanks!

  • Kim says:

    Last year I flew to Auckland, NZ using 35k United miles flying on Air New Zealand. The trick here was booking a one-way flight to Fiji which is cheaper in miles, and then not taking my connection from Auckland. In order for this strategy to work, you must not have any checked bags.

  • Ed says:

    Flying to Perth later this month on AA and Qantas.
    We booked our trip before the AA devaluation.
    We decided to book business class to get there, so we could sleep, and fly coach back, no business class availability on the return, 100,000 miles per person.

  • Charles says:

    Looks like I’ll be applying for an Alaska Mileage Visa to start saving up for a trip down under!

  • Theresa Marko says:

    This trip would definitely need to be in business class. I find it difficult to use my Citi TYP. I wish they would just transfer to AA since they have a relationship. I don’t get why they dont.

    • Theresa – there are a lot of us that want this to happen. The good thing about TYP is that you can transfer to other partners as well (like Air France) where you could then book a flight with their partners to Australia as well.

  • Sue Kadunc says:

    This is great information. I hoped to plan a trip to Hawaii in the future, but might re-consider and think about Australia or New Zealand. Thank you!

  • Angie says:

    I lived in New Zealand in 2003, but my partner has never been. We’re looking at June 2018. Hoping to buy one business class ticket and use points/miles for the other. He just got the Sapphire Reserve, and we’re piling points on it pretty quickly. So, we’re probably looking at using United miles (I love flying Air New Zealand, though.). I find they’re one of the easiest to search for awards with. Bummed about some of their routing changes, though. Managed to book round trip business to Thailand with a 3 day stopover in Tokyo for June 2017 before the new region rules went into effect.

    Although, if Fiji Air has another one of their terrific business class sales, we could probably pay for both tickets for less than the cost of buying one and add in a stopover in Fiji as a bonus.

  • Helen Goody says:

    I’m encouraged by some of the tips here and will start planning soon!

  • Norman Henriquez says:

    Our family of four were able to fly American on economy award tickets from Miami to Osaka. Somehow we were able to grab those few seat available to do it with the minimum required miles and during high season. Just dont give up and keep your eyes and flexibility open to fulfill a dream come true vacation.

  • A says:

    Really want to go to Australia and NZ

  • Richard Pomerantz says:

    Great timing. We’re on the Big Island and were talking about where we want to go next. We both said Australia and New Zealand in 2017.

  • Julie says:

    If you have a Delta AmEx, another option is to use Delta Pay with Miles to bring down the price of a ticket to Oz on Delta, which also allows you to avoid the fuel surcharges and fees. We’re flying to Sydney direct from LAX in 10 days and by using Pay with Miles, we were able to get coach-class round-trip tickets for just about $650 per person.

  • Roopa says:

    Travelled to Hobart Tasmania as well as Newzeland .Used Delta sky miles

  • Jamie Morris says:

    I flew on United to Sydney using miles in economy and connected through SFO. My connection was long enough to take a grey tour of the city, plus get a room for a nap and a shower before my flight.
    I the service on my flight was excellent and I will use them again on my trip to New Zealand.

  • Arlyne Dehning says:

    We are going to Australia and New Zealand to celebrate our 40th anniversary. Using airline miles is a new experience for us so information on the process is very helpful. Thanks

  • Brian says:

    What about using Virgin America Elevate points to fly business on Virgin Australia (80k round trip)? Or is this award just in name only and never available?

  • Max says:

    That’s what I’ve been saving up all those miles for all those years! No way I’m making that trip in coach.

  • Isaac S. says:

    I’ve always wanted to visit Australia and New Zealand. Hoping to use Alaska miles, but we’ll see what availability is like when things get closer.

  • Harris says:

    A long flight to Australia is definitely worth redeeming the extra points/miles for business class!

  • Mark N says:

    I totally agree with the writer. I used American Airline to Aust and stopped over for a few days in Japan with 80,000 points in off season.

    Thanks American Airline – Enjoyed it.

  • Rob Arias says:

    I was considering using Citi or AMEX and using the points to book through their rewards centre, would that be better than using SPG or one of the AA cards? I fly with AA since I live in Dallas so they’re pretty much my best choice.

    Also, I flew back from Sydney to DFW in first class on their non-stop AA flight. Great experience definitely one of the best flights I’ve done

    • Rob, it all depends on the class of service you’re looking to travel, award availability and how many points/miles you have. Our Award Booking experts can definitely help (https://awardwallet.com/awardBooking/requests) make sure you get the best value of your rewards.

      • Rob Arias says:

        Would you recommend either though? I liked the idea of using rewards points as that would still allow me to gain status with AA (currently don’t have any status). Also, I would prefer to travel business or even first but I know first can be outrageous to obtain.

        • Rob, I wouldn’t recommend contacting either Amex or Citi to complete the booking — to get the best value from your points for long-haul international premium cabins you’ll want to transfer to airline travel partners and then book — that’s where the booking experts we have come in.

          • Rob Arias says:

            Which is better to transfer to AA? American Express or Citi? I’m between those two, Citi has better fitting bonus categories (entertainment) but I’ve heard great things about American Express.

          • Rob, neither American Express Membership Rewards nor Citi ThankYou Points can be transferred to AAdvantage. SPG Points are the only flexible travel rewards currency that can be used to transfer to AAdvantage.

      • Keith says:

        The AwardBooking link appears to be wrong; can you tell us more about this service?

  • Steven Schwartz says:

    We did this two years ago. Used AA miles to get First Class NYC to Hong Kong on Cathay Pacific. Business Class from HKG to Melbourne and the return from Auckland to HKG. Seems to be a bit harder now but at 135,000 miles per person then, it was pretty amazing. My wife hates flying but would do Cathay First anytime!

  • sheridan says:

    One thing to consider: I just returned from OZ a week ago. I bought my one-way ticket there on Hawaiian Air. You have to overnight in Honolulu, but I can think of worse things to do. For my return trip, I used 40k miles to fly home on United.

    • Nicely done! There are definitely worse places to spend a night 🙂

    • Barry Schnur says:

      What we have set up for next year is a composite trip using miles from American and Hawaii and paying for some flights.

      We fly from Phoenix to Honolulu — using minimal Hawaiian Air miles (17.5K economy for each of us)

      Then we stay two nights at a timeshare we have access to. That sets us up for Australia.

      Using American miles we fly business class on Hawaiian Airlines (they now have lie flats) to Sydney. We’re staying overnight at the Rydges hotel connected to the international terminal since the flight gets in at 7:30PM

      The next day we fly up to Cairns — as a continuation of the AA frequent flyer miles flight (65K x 2) for business class from Honolulu to Cairns via Sidney.

      Three days in Cairns, then we fly to Melbourne using Alaska miles on Qantas — business class -20K x 2). We stay there for a week.

      Originally we were using AA miles on Qantas to fly to Auckland — but Qantas messed around on flight times (we were NOT going to try to take a 7AM international flight). So I decided to bite the bullet and pay for an Air New Zealand flight to Auckland ($300 x 2 for Premium Economy).

      After a couple of weeks in New Zealand, we fly back to our primary timeshare in Kona. Knowing how difficult getting that flight with miles, and seeing a bargain price with Hawaiian — we booked that on dollars ($1400 x 2) business class to Kona via Honolulu.

      After a week in Kona at our time share, we fly home to Phoenix on American Airlines — paid for that out of pocket — economy with an upgrade to economy plus. Those flights ran about $375 each.

      The combination of frequent flyer miles, and selective choices of paid flights meant about $4200 plus miles for a special vacation — it has been fun to schedule.

      I also like reducing those long Pacific flights into smaller segments, using Hawaii as the break point.

      Further, there is a lot more availability from Hawaii to Australia or NZ using miles than you get from the mainland.