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Yes, if you have no eligible stays in ALL properties over a 12-month period, your points will expire. However, based on the evidence we have seen, any points earning activity will extend the life of your points by 12 months from the date of that activity.
Note that Accor Live Limitless has paused expiration for elite members through April 30, 2021. See this post for the airline and hotel programs that have paused the expiration of points and miles.
According to the ALL website, every time you stay and have points credit to your account, it resets the expiry clock to 1 year from the date the points hit your account. One thing to note with ALL is that most hotel programs require some earning activity, which can be achieved via a partner, however, the ALL policy is quite strict and only allows stays to keep points from expiring.
Official language:
Status points and nights earned at the end of an eligible stay or after payment of an event (in the context of the Meeting Planner offer) are valid until the 31st December included, following the date of check-out.
Rewards points are valid for 12 months after your check-out date.
This validity period is extended by 365 days each time a stay/event resulting a credit of Status points is recorded on your account. Stays fully stelled by Rewards points also enable to extend the validity period of the Rewards points by 365 days after the check out date of the hotel.
Your Rewards points expire without notice and without the possibility of restoring or transferring them if no stay is recorded in the 365 days following your last stay.
Once you have agreed to receive electronic communications from the ALL – Accor Live Limitless programme, you receive two reminder emails, 3 months and then 1 and a half months before the expiry of your Rewards points.
How ALL – Accor Live Limitless Points Expiration Works in Practice
Although the ALL program says you have to complete a stay to reset the clock, in practice most users have found that any earning will reset the clock. While this may be the case in practice, it shouldn't be taken for granted if you're sitting on a stash of points as ALL may decide to be strict and start enforcing their already published rule at any time.
How To Earn ALL Points
Without staying at ALL properties, here are 6 ways you can pick up ALL Points:
- Get a subscription to the Economist
- Credit a Europcar rental to ALL
- Credit a Hertz rental to ALL. This does not include rentals in the US
- Transfer Qatar Qmiles to ALL at the poor ratio of 4.5 Qmiles to 1 ALL point
- Transfer Finnair Plus miles to ALL points – ratio another poor 7:1
- Take a survey with e-Rewards Market research and transfer them to ALL – this is an invite-only program.
Overall
Although ALL – Accor Live Limitless is not very well represented in the US it is still a decent hotel group with some great options for redemptions, especially in Europe.
While their policy in practice appears to be different from their written policy, we still suggest that if you're hoarding points, you keep in line with their written policy to ensure you don't wake up one morning to find your points gone.
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I have about 3,000 points that are about to be defeated, I will surely make some exchange so as not to lose them, because the pandemic is complicated. Greetings.
There is 10 day long memory game that can keep your LeClubAccorhotels rewards points active
Program is good for European travelers. Us not so much. What association do they have with fairmont hotels?
As far as know at the present moment there will be no Accor points earned for a stay at any Fairmont hotel even in Europe e.g. Fairmont Monte Carlo
On the 2nd of July 2018 Raffles, Fairmont and Swissôtel Hotels and Resorts will welcome Le Club AccorHotels members. You’ll receive your Le Club AccorHotels benefits, earn points with each and every stay (Isabelle Birem, Senior Vice President, Le Club AccorHotels). Enjoy your stays! 🙂
As for me I don’t consider that AccorHotels points transfer to a FFP is a good idea. 2000 points are 40 Euro voucher that you can pay your stay with. 4000 points will be enough for one night in some 4 star hotel stay (of course, not in considered expensive Zurich or Stockholm). I wonder how far you could fly with 4000 Iberia Plus avios or 2000 Delta Sky miles?
Good to know as I have rare stays with Accor.
I am lucky I have activated the direct transfer to my Iberia account when it was possible.
I have tried later to do the same for a friend and it has not work so her points has expired.
I think, mine get re-activated every time I’m doing one of these surveys, is that correct?
Yes it is.
Some useful tips. Thanks am.
There are options to extend the expire date thru surveys.
Great info, thanks!
I’m not familiar with these hotels but since they don’t seem to have many redemption options in the areas I frequent, if I ever end up in one of there hotels for work, I’ll probably follow the tips and credit the points to Delta.
Points from surveys will extend the expiration in my experience, too.
I always transfer my points out to Iberia Plus, which gives a better conversion rate than BA Executive Club
That is a good point, both are avios currency and can freely be transferred between BA and IB, but you get I think twice as many avios crediting to IB.
great options for hotels in Europe
looks like a good program. Not many places to use within the US though
transfer to Delta is a decent option to avoid losing points
I don’t stay at Accor properties that often, so I found the best option for me was to set up auto convert to airline miles. The exchange rate may not be the greatest, but at least it means the points are now in a currency that I regularly use and won’t expire.
Thank you to all of the above who have provided info on Accor extension.
I was aware of e-rewards, however not aware of ClubOpinions.
great hotels in Europe, etc. I get AA miles from them.
We do the same thing for my wife Ron. Her company hosts conferences at Accor properties in Australia and Asia and miles make more sense than Accor points.
You can also transfer your points out to delta airlines which does not have expiry.
I believe there’s a minimum amount for the transfer, but good tip!
Accor’s Le Club points can be used on some airlines, such as Latam for example.
Good to know. Thanks!
Using a survey is probably the best choice to keep points. As soon as i had enough points i will transfer them to iberia. Seems to be the best value for me.
In addition to e-rewards you can also take surveys at ClubOpinioins